[elvin-discuss] Hello All

Matthew Phillips matt at mattp.name
Thu Oct 11 18:24:12 CDT 2007

Hi Richie,

I work for the Australian Department of Defence, and we too are quite  
fond of Elvin. I'll let the Mantara guys fill you in on what's going  
on with the company (I'd be interested in an update myself actually),  
but we are in the process of migrating from Mantara Elvin to Avis  
(http://avis.sourceforge.net). I developed Avis in response to the  
retirement of Elvin as a product and the perceived low probability  
that the new Mantara management would allow Elvin to be open sourced.

Most of our projects build on the Java platform, so I've also  
developed a Java client API, and one of our partners (CSIRO) is in  
the process of developing a C++ API which will also be part of the  
Avis project.

In terms of performance and reliability, all I can say is it's good  
enough for our needs and, since it's also being used by several of  
our partners, I can be fairly confident it will be a long-term option  
given the commitment we have to it.



On 12/10/2007, at 2:04 AM, William R. Hazlewood wrote:

> I just joined the list, I've been using Elvin over the years, and  
> to my surprise when i went to Mantara's webpage to download an  
> update, boom, All the sudden the website is in New Jersey and my  
> login does not work.
> I've been hunting around the web to try and figure out what  
> happened. I guess mantara is no longer supporting elvin. luckily it  
> looks like others are implementing the spec. I love this software  
> and I hope it continues to exist.
> Did mantara own all the rights to the other API's they developed. I  
> think I used to have access to a C API, JAVA API, .NET, PERL,  
> PYTHON, etc.  Is that all gone now?
> Is the leading implementation the Arriva one? In other words, if I  
> want to implement a project using Elvin as the middleware, what do  
> you recommend?
> Finally, Is Ted Phelps no longer involved at all? :-) He was a  
> smart guy!
> Thanks in advance,
> Richie
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